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An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, the Almighty.
He asks one of his new students to stand and.....
Prof: So you believe in God?
Student: Absolutely, sir.
Prof: Is God good?
Student: Sure.
Prof: Is God all-powerful?
Student: Yes.
Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But  God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm?
(Student is silent.)
Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fellow. Is God good?
Student: Yes.
Prof: Is Satan good?
Student: No
Prof: Where does Satan come from?
Student: From...God...
Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
Student: Yes.
Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct?
Student: Yes.
Prof: So who created evil?
(Student does not answer.)
Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?
Student: Yes, sir.
Prof: So, who created them?
(Student has no answer.)
Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and serve the world around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God?
Student: No, sir.
Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?
Student: No, sir.
Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelled your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?
Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?
Student: Yes.
Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student: Nothing. I only have my faith.
Prof: Yes, faith. And that is the problem science has.
Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat?
Prof: Yes.
Student: And is there such a thing as cold?
Prof: Yes.
Student: No sir. There isn't.
(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)
Student: Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have any thing called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.
(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)
Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?
Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?
Student: You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light.... But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it is called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?
Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?
Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?
Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality.  You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?
Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.
Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.)
Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?
(The class is in uproar.)
Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain?
(The class breaks out into laughter.)
Student: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelled it?..... No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?
(The room is silent. The professor stares at the student.)
Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.
Student: That is it, sir.. The link between man & god is FAITH. That is all that keeps things moving & alive.
Guess who that young man was ?
 
  ALBERT EINSTEIN.......
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i'm stoned,....

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nimeni nu e prost!!!......doar ca nu toata lumea-i desteapta.......
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Alexandru90
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Mi-am permis sa traduc textul din engleza in romana si pentru cei care nu stau bine la capitolu' engleza ,sau care pur si simplu' n-au chef sa-l citeasca findca e in engleza......

S-ar putea sa mai fi gresit pe undeva si poate ca si-a mai pierdut din farmec textul odata tradus...imi cer scuze pentru asta... si sper ca ,Keppler, nu s-a suparat deoarece l-am tradus si postat iarasi in romana.



Un profesor de psihologie vorbeste clasei despre problema stiintei legata de Dumnezeu,atotputernicul.
El intreaba unul dintre noii elevi.....
Prof: Deci,crezi in Dumnezeu?
Student:Absolut domnule.
Prof:E Dumnezeu bun?
Student: Desigur.
Prof:Este Dumnezeu atot-puternic?
Student: Da.
Prof:Fratele meu a murit de cancer,chiar daca s-a rugat la Dumnezeu sa-l vindece.Cei mai multi dintre noi am incerca sa-i ajutam pe cei bolnavi,dar Dumnezeu n-a facut asta.Cum este Dumnezeu atunci?Hmm?
(Studentul este tacut)
Prof:Nu poti raspunde,asa e?sa incepem de la inceput,tanare prieten Este Dumnezeu bun?
Student: Da.
Prof:Este satan bun?
Student:Nu.
Prof: De unde vine Satan atunci?
Student: De la......Dumnezeu......
Prof:Asa e.Spune-mi fiule,este rau in lume?
Student: Da.
Prof:Raul este peste tot,nu-i asa?si Dumnezeu a facut totul,corect?
Student: Da.
Prof: Deci, cine a creeat raul?
(Studentul nu raspunde)
Prof:Exista boli?Imoralitate?Ura?Uratenie?Toate aceste lucruri teribile exista in lume,nu-i asa?
Student: Da,domnule.
Prof: deci,cine le-a creeat?
(Studentul n-are raspuns)
Prof:Stiinta ne spune ca ai 5 sensuri sa recunosti si sa servesti lumea din jurul tau.Spune-mi fiule....l-ai vazut vreodata pe Dumnezeu?
Student:NU,domnule.
Prof:L-ai auzit vreodata pe Dumnezeu?
Student:Nu,domnule.
Prof:L-ai simntit vreodata pe Dumnezeul tau?l-ai gustat vreodata pe Dumnezeul tau?l-ai mirosit vreodata pe Dumnezeul tau?
Prof:Ai avut vreodata o perceptie din p.d.v senzorial asupra Lui Dumnezeu?
Student:Nu,domnule.Mi-e teama ca n-am avut.
Prof:Totusi...tu inca mai crezi in el?
Student: Da.
Prof:In concordanta cu empiricul,testele,protocolul demonstrat,stiinta spune ca Dumnezeu nu exista.Tu ce spui atunci,fiule?
Student:Nimic,eu am doar credinta.
Prof: Da,credinta.Si asta e problema pe care stiinta o are.
Stundent:Profesore,exista un lucru numit caldura?
Prof: Da.
Student:Si exista un lucru numit rece?
Prof: Da.
Student:Nu domnule.NU exista.
("Teatrul" lecturii devine tacut odata cu aceasta intorsatura a evenimentelor)
Student: Domnule,putem avea multa caldura,chiar si mai multa caldura,super caldura,mega caldura,caldura alba,un pic de caldura sau, sa nu avem caldura.Dar nu avem nimic care se numeste"rece"."Rece" e doar un cuvant pentru a descrie absenta caldurii.Nu putem masura recele.Caldura e energie.Recele nu e opusul caldurii,domnule,e doar absenta caldurii.
(S-a facut liniste in clasa)
Student:Ce credeti despre intuneric,profesor?Exista un lucru numit "intuneric"?
Prof: Da.Ce e noaptea daca nu e intuneric?
Student:Va inselati iar,domnule.Intunericul e absenta a ceva......
Dar daca nu avem lumina constant,nu avem nimic,si atunci se numeste intuneric,nu-i asa?In realitate,intunericul nu exista.Daca s-ar putea ca dumneavoastra sa faceti intunericul mai intuneric,l-ati face?
Prof:Si unde vrei sa ajungi,tinere?
Student: Domnule,eu vreau sa spun ca premisa filozofiei dumneavoastra e gresita.
Prof:Gresita?Poti sa explici cum?
Student: Domnule,lucrati la premisa duelitatii.Argumentati ca exista viata ,iar dupa aceea ca exista moarte,un Zeu bun si un Zeu rau.Dumneavoastra priviti conceptul ca Dumnezeu e ceva finit,ceva ce putem masura.Domnule stiinta nu poate explica un gand.Foloseste electricitate si magnetism,dar n-a fost vazut niciodata,atat mai putin nu poate fi inteleasa niciuna dintre ele.Pentru a vedea moartea ca opusul vietii trebuie sa fi ignorant al faptului ca moartea nu poate exista ca un lucru subiectiv.Moartea nu e opusul vietii : doar absenta ei.Acum spune-mi,profesore.Dumneavoastra va invatati elevii ca evolueaza din maimuta?
Prof: Daca te referi la procesul natural de evolutie,da,normal asta fac.
Student:Ati observat evolutia cu ochii dumneavoastra,domnule?
(Profesorul da din cap si zambeste,incepand sa realizeze unde vrea sa ajunga argumentul)
Student: Din vreme ce nimeni n-a observat procesul evolutiei la munca si nici macar nu poate demonstra ca acest proces se deruleaza,nu va predati opinia,domnule?Nu sunteti un profesor sunteti un predicator?
(clasa e uimita)
Student: e cineva in clasa care a vazut creierul profesorului,simtit,pipait sau mirosit?...Se pare ca nimeni n-a facut asta.
(clasa izbucneste in ras)
Student: Deci,In concordanta cu empiricul,testele,protocolul demonstrat,stiinta spune ca nu aveti creier,domnule.Cu tot respectul,domnule,cum sa avem incredere in lectura dumneavoastra?
(in clasa e liniste,profesorul se uita la elev)
Prof:Pai cred ca pur si simplu trebuie sa trebuie sa crezi,fiule (sa ai credinta).
Student:Asta este domnule....legatura dintre om Si Dumnezeu e credinta.Asta e tot ce face ca lucrurile sa continue sa mearga si sa existe.
Ghici cine era tanarul acela?

Albert Einstein.......

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